December: James support New Order at Brixton Academy, their first major London show
Tag Archives: 1983
Manchester Rafters – 7th December 1983
Setlist
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Support
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Review
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Bournemouth Town Hall – 2nd December 1983
Setlist
Skullduggery / If Things Were Perfect / Vulture / What's The World / Withdrawn / Chain Mail / Leaking / Folklore / Hymn From A Village / StutterSupport
(supporting) New OrderMore Information & Reviews
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London Brixton Academy – 1st December 1983
Setlist
Hymn From A Village / What's The World / Chain Mail / Vulture / Fire So Close / Withdrawn / Leaking / DisciplineSupport
(supporting) New OrderMore Information & Reviews
Neil Taylor, NME
Thank God then for James, a Factory band with the sort of talent that most headliners would struggle to find in a month of Blue Mondays. If regulation guitar, drums, bass and vocals are back in style then add to your list of potential hitmakers this magnificent four-piece band.
Beginning a well-constructed, well-received set with the patting of a cow-bell in ‘Hymn From A Village’, James build their sound around flurries of cascading vocals tacked onto the janglies of a post-Postcard guitar. Skipping from a chugging, almost Latin beat in ‘Withdrawn’ to the up-and-down, fast-and-slow motions of ‘What’s The World’, James not only make enjoyable music but actually look as though they enjoy making it. Throwing himself into spasms, lead-singer Tim Booth amazes the audience by singing full pelt “I-I-I-I-I-I” then modestly bouncing backstage and almost throwing away the lines “I wear an armour plated suit / You put your lips to helmet slits / You try to suck me out the tin / I can’t get out, I’m welded in”
November 1983
Manchester Hacienda – 24th November 1983
Setlist
Withdrawn / Chain Mail / Just Hip / Island Swing / Folklore / Vulture / Leaking / Discipline / Stutter
Support
Supporting The Smiths
Review
n/a
What’s The World
What’s The World is the lead track on the 1983 James debut EP Jimone.
Live versions of the track feature on the Come Home Live cd and dvd and a 1984 Discreet Campaigns fanzine tape.
It appeared on the first two demo tapes and was played at a Fall support show at Manchester Poly as early as 1980. The first version featured lyrics by Paul, which were substituted on the second 1982 version by Gavan and Jennie Ingram’s lyrics, before Tim joined and rewrote it completely.
The original lyrics featured the lines “Oh why can’t you see / What you’re doing to me / Between the pleasure and the pain / It really fucks up my brain”
The song was covered by The Smiths and was released on their I Started Something I Couldn’t Finish cassette single then a US Sweet And Tender Hooligan single and finally the two-disc version of The Sound Of The Smiths.
Details
I’ve been looking for some words to call my own, not worn out phrases and hand me downs. They’ll mark me and where I stand, a bug on its back in a corned beef can.
Going under, you can feel them stripping you down to the rust inside.
This is the way, Frankie’s star is born. From those bits and pieces others have worn. All held together by management glue, too much glue, and the stars turn blue.
Going under, you can feel them pulling you down to the holes inside.
Song: | What's The World |
Released: | November 1983 |
Main Associated Album (or Single): | Jimone EP |
First Heard Live: | Liverpool State Ballroom – 23rd March 1983 |
- Side B – Factory Demo Tape :Promo, Album, 1983
- Jimone EP :Studio, EP, 1983
- Village Fire – Five Offerings From James EP :Compilation, EP, 1985
- Discreet Campaigns Vol 1 :Compilation (non James), Album, 1985
- Come Home Live :Live, VHS, 1991
- Fresh As A Daisy (Reference CD) :Promo, Album, 2007
- Fresh As A Daisy – The Singles :Compilation, Album, 2007
- The Gathering Sound (full promo) :Promo, Box Set, 2012
- The Gathering Sound :Compilation, Box Set, 2012
- Manchester Castlefield Bowl – 2nd July 2022
- Warrington Parr Hall – 29th June 2022
- Lisbon MEO Arena – 29th November 2014
- London Brixton Academy – 21st November 2014
- London Royal Albert Hall – 19th November 2014
- New York Webster Hall – 21st October 2014
- Athens Theatro Vrachon – 15th July 2014
- Manchester Castlefield Bowl – 11th July 2014
- Anaheim House Of Blues – 12th October 2010
- Vancouver Commodore Ballroom – 7th October 2010
- Manchester Apollo – 11th April 1998
- Glasgow Barrowlands – 14th March 1997
- Manchester Free Trade Hall – 17th December 1992
- London Town And Country Club – 16th December 1992
- New Britain, CT, The Sting – 25th October 1992
- Alton Towers – 4th July 1992
- Frankfurt Live Music Hall – 3rd May 1992
- Hamburg Grosse Freiheit 36 – 29th April 1992
- Paris Bataclan – 23rd April 1992
- Glasgow Barrowlands – 6th November 1991
- Cambridge Corn Exchange – 29th October 1991
- London Brixton Academy – 25th October 1991
- London Brixton Academy – 24th October 1991
- Portsmouth Guildhall – 22nd October 1991
- Nottingham Royal Concert Hall – 8th October 1991
- Hultsfred Festival – 10th August 1991
- Seinajoki Festival – 8th June 1991
- Manchester G-Mex – 8th December 1990
- Glasgow Barrowlands – 4th December 1990
- Newcastle Mayfair – 3rd December 1990
- Blackpool Empress Ballroom – 4th August 1990
- Norwich UEA – 17th June 1990
- Liverpool Royal Court – 15th June 1990
- Sheffield University – 14th June 1990
- Bristol Studio – 10th June 1990
- Exeter University – 9th June 1990
- Hull City Hall – 8th June 1990
- Lancaster University – 6th June 1990
- Glasgow Barrowlands – 5th June 1990
- St Andrew’s University – 4th June 1990
- Brighton The Event – 14th May 1990
- Nottingham Trent Polytechnic – 2nd December 1989
- London Town And Country Club – 28th November 1989
- Liverpool University – 25th November 1989
- Edinburgh Carlton – 17th November 1989
- Bradford Futurama Festival – 1st October 1989
- London Town And Country Club 2 – 28th September 1989
- London Marquee Club – 4th July 1989
- Bristol Bierkeller – 19th June 1989
- Liverpool Royal Court – 16th June 1989
- Bath Moles Club – 16th November 1988
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- Paris La Cigale – 30th October 1988
- Bristol Bierkeller – 26th October 1988
- Liverpool Polytechnic – 20th October 1988
- Stirling University – 16th October 1988
- Glasgow Queen Margaret Union – 15th October 1988
- Aberdeen The Venue – 14th October 1988
- Newcastle Riverside – 12th October 1988
- Manchester Ritz – 11th October 1988
- Manchester International 2 – 30th May 1988
- London Town And Country Club – 10th April 1988
- Birmingham University – 3rd October 1987
- London Astoria – 2nd October 1987
- Manchester Green Rooms – 10th August 1987
- Birmingham Burberries – 28th July 1987
- Sheffield University – 28th May 1987
- Northampton Old Five Bells – 10th January 1987
- Manchester Capri Rooms – 1st December 1986
- Hamburg Logo – 18th November 1986
- London ICA – 9th October 1986
- Blackburn King George’s Hall – 19th September 1986
- Aberdeen The Venue – 16th August 1986
- Glasgow Daddy Warbucks – 14th August 1986
- Bristol Clevedon Kenn Moor WOMAD – 19th July 1986
- London LSE – 26th June 1986
- Leeds Ritzy – 24th June 1986
- Manchester Town Hall – 7th June 1986
- London Porchester Hall – 27th March 1986
- Leeds Astoria – 23rd November 1985
- Bristol Ashton Court Festival – 3rd August 1985
- Manchester Platt Fields Festival – 2nd August 1985
- London Bloomsbury Theatre – 17th July 1985
- Edinburgh Hoochie Coochie – 26th May 1985
- London Hammersmith Riverside – 12th May 1985
- London Royal Albert Hall – 6th April 1985
- London ICA – 19th March 1985
- Leeds Fforde Grene – 14th August 1984
- Bournemouth Town Hall – 2nd December 1983
- London Brixton Academy – 1st December 1983
- Liverpool State Ballroom – 23rd March 1983
- Unknown Venue – 22nd November 1982
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"that's not enough..." : G#, A
Jimone EP
Summary
The band’s debut release.
Track List
What’s The World / Folklore / Fire So Close
Details
Release Name: | Jimone EP |
Artist Name: | James |
Release Date: | November 1983 |
Format: | Studio EP |
Catalogue: | FAC78 |
Related Release(s): |
JIMONE was conceived as a means of getting the band more gigs. Despite local support slots for Orange Juice, The Fall and New Order, James had struggled to get shows outside of Manchester without a record to their name.
Mike Pickering of Factory Records, and later M People, had picked up on the band’s demo tape and after having promoted several James shows at Factory’s Hacienda club, agreed to release the band’s debut single.
Factory wanted James to release Withdrawn and Hymn From A Village as the single, but the band, wary of going into the studio, wanted to record what they saw as three of their worst tracks so they wouldn’t blow their best songs through inexperience in the studio.
The single was recorded with Chris Nagle at Strawberry Studios in Stockport
The single’s distinctive artwork came about by mistake. Unable to decide upon a cover, Jim picked up a red pen and scrawled JIMONE on a green card. With just hours to go until the printer’s deadline, the band chose this childlike scrawl as the cover. The title was also a skit on Factory’s insistence on cataloguing their releases in chronological order, JIMONE being FAC78.
The single succeeded in bringing James to the attention of the national music press who were picking up on fellow Mancunians The Smiths and New Order. It was voted single of the week in all three major weekly music papers – NME, Melody Maker and Sounds.
The Smiths became champions of James, Morrissey describing them as “the best band in the world” and paying the band the ultimate compliment of covering What’s The World on their 1985 Scottish tour and releasing it on the I Started Something I Couldn’t Finish cassette single.
Reviews
Sounds
The Smiths and now a group called James – who’d have figured Manchester as the centre of a post-industrial semi-acoustic renaissance? This has more to do with the romantic side of Genesis P-Orridge than Dexy’s Po-Faced Runners and going by “Folklore” it might be as much tongue-in-chic as finger-in-ear. What might have been a perverse stab at being different, however, is already developing into an odd idiosyncratic vision on “What’s The World”.
- Fire So Close :1983
- Folklore :1983
- What’s The World :1983
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- Jimone Front Cover
- Jimone Back Cover
- Jimone A Side
- Jimone B Side
- Melody Maker Jimone Review
- Record Mirror Jimone Review
- Sounds Jimone Review
- Factory Signing Rumour
Fire So Close
Fire So Close is a song from James’ debut EP Jimone released in 1983 and the Village Fire EP in 1985.
The song is an anti-nuclear tirade looking at Wayne (the US) and Ivan (Soviet Union) facing each other.
It was slowed down and renamed Why So Close for the Stutter LP three years later.
Details
Big boys in black hats
Cowboys with white guns
White guns shoot blue white
Blue white baptism
No buffaloes
No Indians
No more buffaloes
Red sky is falling
Blue blood no stalling
White heat will strip you
No time to run far
Ivan's built a wall of lead round his house
Nobody can get in or out
Running out of food for ammunition
Frightened of the darkness
Sending out scouts
Why hang the fire so close
Why hang the fire so close
Why hang the fire so close
Why so close, so close
Wayne's got a wall that's much more subtle
Wore headphones since he was born
Watches Ivan through dark glasses
Hand on his gun waiting for the storm
One false move and we all fall down
No funeral games, no such fun
Here's your ticket to the party
That's what you get for playing with a gun
Six-gun so close
Ivan's got a wall of lead round his house
Nobody can get in or out
Running out of food for ammunition
Frightened of the darkness
Sending out scouts
Wayne's got a wall that's much more subtle
Wore headphones since he was born
Watches Ivan through dark glasses
Hands on his gun waiting for the storm
Why stand the fire so close
Why stand the fire so close
Why stand the fire so close
Why?
Song: | Fire So Close |
Released: | November 1983 |
Main Associated Album (or Single): | Jimone EP |
First Heard Live: | Liverpool State Ballroom – 23rd March 1983 |
- Side B – Factory Demo Tape :Promo, Album, 1983
- Jimone EP :Studio, EP, 1983
- Village Fire – Five Offerings From James EP :Compilation, EP, 1985
- Fresh As A Daisy (Reference CD) :Promo, Album, 2007
- Fresh As A Daisy – The Singles :Compilation, Album, 2007
- Manchester Arena – 26th April 2013
- London Brixton Academy – 19th April 2013
- Glasgow SECC – 13th April 2013
- London Royal Albert Hall – 4th November 2011
- Gateshead Sage – 2nd November 2011
- Manchester Bridgewater Hall – 1st November 2011
- Manchester Bridgewater Hall – 31st October 2011
- Liverpool Philharmonic – 29th October 2011
- Liverpool Philharmonic – 28th October 2011
- Nottingham Royal Centre – 27th October 2011
- Glasgow Royal Concert Hall – 25th October 2011
- Birmingham Symphony Hall – 24th October 2011
- Cardiff Millennium Centre – 23rd October 2011
- Manchester Ritz – 12th April 1988
- London Astoria – 2nd October 1987
- Manchester Green Rooms – 9th August 1987
- Glasgow Fury Murrays – 6th August 1987
- Birmingham Burberries – 28th July 1987
- Sheffield University – 28th May 1987
- Sunderland Poly – 15th May 1987
- Northampton Old Five Bells – 10th January 1987
- London ULU – 9th January 1987
- Cardiff Chapter Arts Centre – 9th November 1986
- London Brixton Academy – 1st December 1983
- Liverpool State Ballroom – 23rd March 1983
- Unknown Venue – 22nd November 1982
Folklore
Folklore is a song from James’ debut EP Jimone released in 1983 and the Village Fire EP in 1985.
An almost accapella track, often likened to a nursery rhyme, from the debut Jimone EP. Its lyrics are concerned about young boys growing into men in the mirror image of their father and male dominance of women.
It was covered in the early nineties by a band called Unrest and can be found on their BPM compilation album.
Details
Those words are a piece of a part that you played
That sounds like you father, a teacher, the church
Didn't spring from the heart, but research
The only way I learn is put the fist in and get burned
Go get burned
Old wives, mystic here say
Wise men, rich men, shamen and sage
When you're meek on the Earth, when you die you will pay
For accepting that lot, in the cheapest of graves
The sexes divided, men mustn't be weak
Sensitivity is a vice of which we shan't speak
And women are a play thing that are just made for men
To treat how the boss he respect treats him
And I am going to grow up like daddy wanted me to be
To impress all those, who so impressed me
And young boys melt into men
And we'll start the process again
Add a touch of mystique where the writing gets weak
Break up coherence with a cut-cut-cut up technique
When you've got nothing to say
Shut up
Or show that you're willing to play
With words that simply aren't out of touch
With the genuine feelings which lead to their birth
Most things are better not written or heard
When you open your mouth, out drops a turd
The only way I learn is put the fist in and get burned.
Song: | Folklore |
Released: | November 1983 |
Main Associated Album (or Single): | Jimone EP |
First Heard Live: | Manchester Hacienda – 24th November 1983 |
- Jimone EP :Studio, EP, 1983
- Village Fire – Five Offerings From James EP :Compilation, EP, 1985
- Palatine – The Factory Story 1979 – 1990 (Boxset) :Compilation (non James), Album, 1991
- Tears In Their Eyes :Compilation (non James), Album, 1991
- North By North West – A Particularly Interesting Local History :Compilation (non James), Album, 2006
- Fresh As A Daisy (Reference CD) :Promo, Album, 2007
- Fresh As A Daisy – The Singles :Compilation, Album, 2007
- The Gathering Sound (full promo) :Promo, Box Set, 2012
- The Gathering Sound :Compilation, Box Set, 2012
- London Marquee Club – 4th July 1989
- London Marquee Club – 3rd July 1989
- Bristol Bierkeller – 19th June 1989
- Nottingham Trent Poly – 17th June 1989
- Liverpool Royal Court – 16th June 1989
- London Astoria – 2nd October 1987
- Manchester Green Rooms – 10th August 1987
- Manchester Green Rooms – 9th August 1987
- Glasgow Fury Murrays – 6th August 1987
- Bristol Bierkeller – 26th November 1986
- Hamburg Logo – 18th November 1986
- Cologne Luxor – 17th November 1986
- Burnley Mechanics Club – 27th October 1986
- Salford University – 24th October 1986
- London ICA – 10th October 1986
- Blackburn King George’s Hall – 19th September 1986
- Aberdeen The Venue – 16th August 1986
- Glasgow Daddy Warbucks – 14th August 1986
- Bristol Ashton Court Festival – 3rd August 1985
- Mersea Island WOMAD – 21st July 1985
- London Bloomsbury Theatre – 17th July 1985
- Glastonbury Festival – 23rd June 1985
- Edinburgh Hoochie Coochie – 26th May 1985
- BBC Radio 1 Janice Long – 25th April 1985
- London Royal Albert Hall – 6th April 1985
- Manchester Palace Theatre – 31st March 1985
- Bradford St George’s Hall – 28th March 1985
- Bournemouth Town Hall – 2nd December 1983
- Manchester Hacienda – 24th November 1983
- Unknown Venue – 22nd November 1982
October 1983
James play their first John Peel session for Radio One.
“The Name Of The Game Is” – NME
James seem simple, four men, single Jimone on Factory Records. They make nothing of it – James have no phoney philosophical policies, no heroic hyperbole, no dull boasts or grand exaggeration.
Their attitude is more one of the days of ATV and Swell Maps than the flashy NY remixes and glossy art design of Quando Quango or New Order. Fittingly, their record is low-key, harsh, humble, naturally bitter and almost wilfully rushed and messy with little or no production. With the homely folk-feel of fellow Mancunians, those sensitive Smiths, James could easily make their fortunes as the obvious meeting between The Fall and very early Bunnymen. But then, they’re not that simple.
In fact, James are a highly peculiar thing; despite the splendid incongruity, they regard the relationship with Factory as one of mere convenience. “We just want to play gigs, and you can’t get gigs without a single. It’s a means to that end. Factory liked our tape, gave us gigs at the Hacienda and supporting New Order and then asked us to do an album. Then they wanted a mini-album, then an EP, then a 12″ – anything but a plain 45. They offered us help with production, artwork, all of which we declined. They’ve been remarkably patient. They didn’t even know whaat the single was until the day we recorded it! If anything it’s us that’s been difficult, and they never asked us to sign anything, which is all we wanted from anyone.”
Jimone then, is just three songs from James – “No A-side, it’s insulting to tell people which song is better.” All have different productions and all were recorded live in the studio rather than “piece by piece on headphones” (they sneer well). The result from the snappy, slap-dash funk of ‘Fire So Close’ to the terse rumbling of ‘What’s The World’ and ‘Folklore’s unusual charm, is tentative; taut, almost disastrous, ultimately admirable, erratic and brilliant, with a concentrated anger and strange, rambling beauty that begins to prepare you for the fierce challenge of ‘Stutter’, a live highlight and their first moment of Greatness.
Although they’re clearly prepared to be bold and determined to be different, the James boys are softly-spoken, shyly nervous, modest and wisely-aware of their own possibilities. Too bashful to talk to my tape, reluctant to have their pictures taken or to lend me demos or offer up influences, they even resist my attempt to discover devious intentions behind their choice of sleeve (a scrappy green and red felt-pen design of an elongated ‘Jimone’). The idea was to do one drawing each, and then choose. (Laughter breaks loose) Jimmy was the only one who finished! But it’s only a sleeve, even if it is Factory (who, perhaps justifiably, hate it). We want to be judged by our music. As long as it keeps the record clean, it’s fine.”
With their past, their plans and motives, James remain strangely straightforward. “We just want to play live. We may stay with Factory, we may learn about production and change. We may learn to worry about sleeves. So far though we’ve done one single on Factory. We’re happy with that.”
So, for now, Fac 78 is by James. The name was “simple, unassuming, didn’t give any clues…” And James are Jimmy Glennie (bass), Tim Booth (vocals), Paul Gilbertson (guitar), Gavan Whelan (drums).
But you can believe it’s a great deal stranger than that. James. That’s it.